At 4/13/24 02:13 PM, Creeperforce24 wrote:

At 4/7/24 03:57 PM, Tangerine wrote: I know over the past few years everyone has been like "oH nO ai aRt iS gOiNg tO tAkE mY jOB!!!111!!!" and then it didn't, but like oh god. I assume most of you have played around with Suno. The website which allows you to generate pretty convincing music. It can generate the lyrics and vocals for you if you want it to.

I know that the music sounds decently flawed at the moment, but technology improves fast and i'd say in a few months, people won't easily be able to tell if something is ai generated or composed by a person.

Not all doom and gloom though, it has its benefits for musicians like me. It could be used as inspiration or as a tool to check out instrumentation for certain styles. But also it certainly has its negatives.

I don't mean to walk down the streets ringing a bell screaming "The end is nigh!", but it will bring along great changes that I'm not sure I'm ready for.

What's your thoughts? Also, if you've generated any cool things on suno then feel free to share them here :).

"Make a eurobeat song in the style of initial D"
https://app.suno.ai/song/e40bdf84-b110-4751-906d-966498fd515f/

It’s extremely impressive to how far tech has came for us!

At 4/8/24 12:29 PM, Czyszy wrote: It's sad but you can't do anything to stop it. I've been protesting against generative AI in the past but it never worked and only made me feel more depressed over another lost battle. But, maybe in a few years, when the technology advances enough not to be distinguishable from human-made works, suddenly suicide will turn out to in fact be the answer.

At 4/9/24 08:01 PM, Tangerine wrote:

At 4/9/24 07:59 PM, Gribbus07 wrote: Music made by people has soul!! AI will get so good it will sound TOO perfect and you could tell its artificial

that's a very good point lol. humans are naturally attracted to slight and subtle flaws. It's why you can usually tell if something was played by a real person or created synthetically.

At 4/16/24 10:55 PM, SoulSecure wrote: Yeah, I don't like any of this AI garbage. The pictures, the image enhancements, the video fakes, all this stuff is not good. I didn't even realize people were playing with AI making music. This is also not a good thing for the music industry as a whole.

It's already hard enough for guys to bang out tunes to get paid without scabs coming in on the scene with AI. I personally haven't intended to make money with my music for a long time, but that don't mean I ain't got a heart for them that do. Check out all the kids on here trying to just get someone to listen to their track so they can get some feedback! We don't need more kinds of fake music getting in their way.

I am not so certain that laws will keep all this in check. Remember that our hearts are desperately wicked, who can know the heart? AI will not destroy humanity, our sin has already condemned us, but AI will be another tool for depravity and is already being used in evil ways.

Everything is bad and getting worse, but Jesus said that these are the signs of the end coming. Jesus is coming back sooner than we think, it's time to get right with God.

At 4/16/24 06:28 PM, EPSco wrote:

At 4/9/24 08:01 PM, Tangerine wrote:

At 4/9/24 07:59 PM, Gribbus07 wrote: Music made by people has soul!! AI will get so good it will sound TOO perfect and you could tell its artificial

that's a very good point lol. humans are naturally attracted to slight and subtle flaws. It's why you can usually tell if something was played by a real person or created synthetically.

It also makes me think that you could also tell if it’s AI by the lyrics, if they make any sense or not. Sure AI could make something that sounds good but can it make have an actual meaning ?

At 4/16/24 06:23 PM, EPSco wrote:

At 4/8/24 12:29 PM, Czyszy wrote: It's sad but you can't do anything to stop it. I've been protesting against generative AI in the past but it never worked and only made me feel more depressed over another lost battle. But, maybe in a few years, when the technology advances enough not to be distinguishable from human-made works, suddenly suicide will turn out to in fact be the answer.

I think that AI will be stopped at some point. AI is already doing major damages (especially deepfake) and because of that, there’s no doubt that there will be laws to make sure that you will be able to distinguish generated content to human-made content. It’s just that it’s not happening yet because we are still in the early years of generative content, it will happen later.

At 4/16/24 11:50 PM, Tangerine wrote:

At 4/16/24 06:28 PM, EPSco wrote:

At 4/9/24 08:01 PM, Tangerine wrote:

At 4/9/24 07:59 PM, Gribbus07 wrote: Music made by people has soul!! AI will get so good it will sound TOO perfect and you could tell its artificial

that's a very good point lol. humans are naturally attracted to slight and subtle flaws. It's why you can usually tell if something was played by a real person or created synthetically.

It also makes me think that you could also tell if it’s AI by the lyrics, if they make any sense or not. Sure AI could make something that sounds good but can it make have an actual meaning ?

idk I got it to write a song about getting your dick stuck in a toaster, and it came up with some pretty smart lyrics given the prompt. But if I'm being honest, listening to AI-generated lyrics and common pop lyrics, I can't tell the difference. They both sound generic and formulaic. The majority of songs don't have any real substantial meaning, so I guess that's where it's coming from. But to be fair, most people don't really listen to songs for the meaning.

The number of people I hear saying they like songs "for the beat" when it's just the regular boots and cats is wild. If boots and cats is enough to impress the average person, then I don't think they really care about how complex and thought-provoking the lyrics are.

Meaning is also honestly what you make of it. Any song can have meaning if you give it some. I guess the main thing is that since it didn't come from a real person, there isn't any emotion made with the song. But AI emulates songs that do have emotion and it learns from songs that were made by real people. Also, a lot of the songs I hear on Suno do have pretty coherent lyrics. It really depends on what you give it and how specific you are. I've never heard it give broken sentences or absolute gibberish.

AI music certainly can't write award-winning lyrics that are multilayered with a thousand metaphors and intelligent wordplay, but if I'm being honest, neither can most musicians. Many of the lyrics I heard in popular songs have pretty generic and somewhat garbage lyrics. An example would be the song It's Been a Long Long Time, by Kitty Kallen and Harry James. It's a really good song, but it literally has the lyric "Kiss me once, then kiss me twice, then kiss me once again. It's been a long, long time" It's not great lyrics and it honestly sounds AI-generated, but the song was made in 1959 and the lyrics are catchy enough to work. If this song were to come from Suno or whatnot, everyone would be saying "Wow, this is so bad it's obviously ai generated. You can clearly see how the song is uninspired and generic".

Another quick example of lyrics that people would call AI-generated is Deja Vu by Dave Rodgers. Once again, its a really good song and I like it a lot, but the lyrics mean absolutely nothing. "and the search is a mystery" like, what?

So AI music probably wouldn't appeal to someone like you, who listens for the meaning of a song and enjoys it that way, but it appeals to others who aren't like you. Like the boots and cats example I gave earlier, most people are a lot simpler in their musical wants and won't really care if there's meaning or not. If I'm being honest, 90% of the music I actively listen to doesn't even have lyrics xd.

Of course, music AI is still very primitive and certainly has its flaws, but tech is moving fast and in the next decade or so, even the most trained people will struggle to tell if it was AI or human off of just listening.

At 4/18/24 06:47 AM, Czyszy wrote:

At 4/16/24 11:50 PM, Tangerine wrote:

At 4/16/24 06:28 PM, EPSco wrote:

At 4/9/24 08:01 PM, Tangerine wrote:

At 4/9/24 07:59 PM, Gribbus07 wrote: Music made by people has soul!! AI will get so good it will sound TOO perfect and you could tell its artificial

that's a very good point lol. humans are naturally attracted to slight and subtle flaws. It's why you can usually tell if something was played by a real person or created synthetically.

It also makes me think that you could also tell if it’s AI by the lyrics, if they make any sense or not. Sure AI could make something that sounds good but can it make have an actual meaning ?

idk I got it to write a song about getting your dick stuck in a toaster, and it came up with some pretty smart lyrics given the prompt. But if I'm being honest, listening to AI-generated lyrics and common pop lyrics, I can't tell the difference. They both sound generic and formulaic. The majority of songs don't have any real substantial meaning, so I guess that's where it's coming from. But to be fair, most people don't really listen to songs for the meaning.

The number of people I hear saying they like songs "for the beat" when it's just the regular boots and cats is wild. If boots and cats is enough to impress the average person, then I don't think they really care about how complex and thought-provoking the lyrics are.

Meaning is also honestly what you make of it. Any song can have meaning if you give it some. I guess the main thing is that since it didn't come from a real person, there isn't any emotion made with the song. But AI emulates songs that do have emotion and it learns from songs that were made by real people. Also, a lot of the songs I hear on Suno do have pretty coherent lyrics. It really depends on what you give it and how specific you are. I've never heard it give broken sentences or absolute gibberish.

AI music certainly can't write award-winning lyrics that are multilayered with a thousand metaphors and intelligent wordplay, but if I'm being honest, neither can most musicians. Many of the lyrics I heard in popular songs have pretty generic and somewhat garbage lyrics. An example would be the song It's Been a Long Long Time, by Kitty Kallen and Harry James. It's a really good song, but it literally has the lyric "Kiss me once, then kiss me twice, then kiss me once again. It's been a long, long time" It's not great lyrics and it honestly sounds AI-generated, but the song was made in 1959 and the lyrics are catchy enough to work. If this song were to come from Suno or whatnot, everyone would be saying "Wow, this is so bad it's obviously ai generated. You can clearly see how the song is uninspired and generic".

Another quick example of lyrics that people would call AI-generated is Deja Vu by Dave Rodgers. Once again, its a really good song and I like it a lot, but the lyrics mean absolutely nothing. "and the search is a mystery" like, what?

So AI music probably wouldn't appeal to someone like you, who listens for the meaning of a song and enjoys it that way, but it appeals to others who aren't like you. Like the boots and cats example I gave earlier, most people are a lot simpler in their musical wants and won't really care if there's meaning or not. If I'm being honest, 90% of the music I actively listen to doesn't even have lyrics xd.

Of course, music AI is still very primitive and certainly has its flaws, but tech is moving fast and in the next decade or so, even the most trained people will struggle to tell if it was AI or human off of just listening.

That's exactly why I hate this technology. It's made to generate stuff that is counterfeit. It's trying to replicate human-made lyrics, compositions, art etc etc in a way so it "sounds good". And in this case "sounds good" is an euphemism for an "elaborate scam". If it fools people, that's a huge warning sign on how AI can be abused!

At 4/8/24 02:50 PM, SkankyMojo wrote:

At 4/8/24 12:29 PM, Czyszy wrote: It's sad but you can't do anything to stop it. I've been protesting against generative AI in the past but it never worked and only made me feel more depressed over another lost battle. But, maybe in a few years, when the technology advances enough not to be distinguishable from human-made works, suddenly suicide will turn out to in fact be the answer.

Would you not still make music for the love of the craft? I don't understand why A.I. making music would stop anyone who loves making music, from making music.

At 4/7/24 03:57 PM, Tangerine wrote: I know over the past few years everyone has been like "oH nO ai aRt iS gOiNg tO tAkE mY jOB!!!111!!!" and then it didn't, but like oh god. I assume most of you have played around with Suno. The website which allows you to generate pretty convincing music. It can generate the lyrics and vocals for you if you want it to.

I know that the music sounds decently flawed at the moment, but technology improves fast and i'd say in a few months, people won't easily be able to tell if something is ai generated or composed by a person.

Not all doom and gloom though, it has its benefits for musicians like me. It could be used as inspiration or as a tool to check out instrumentation for certain styles. But also it certainly has its negatives.

I don't mean to walk down the streets ringing a bell screaming "The end is nigh!", but it will bring along great changes that I'm not sure I'm ready for.

What's your thoughts? Also, if you've generated any cool things on suno then feel free to share them here :).

"Make a eurobeat song in the style of initial D"
https://app.suno.ai/song/e40bdf84-b110-4751-906d-966498fd515f/

At 4/20/24 10:36 PM, CrowdDoll wrote:

At 4/7/24 03:57 PM, Tangerine wrote: I know over the past few years everyone has been like "oH nO ai aRt iS gOiNg tO tAkE mY jOB!!!111!!!" and then it didn't, but like oh god. I assume most of you have played around with Suno. The website which allows you to generate pretty convincing music. It can generate the lyrics and vocals for you if you want it to.

I know that the music sounds decently flawed at the moment, but technology improves fast and i'd say in a few months, people won't easily be able to tell if something is ai generated or composed by a person.

Not all doom and gloom though, it has its benefits for musicians like me. It could be used as inspiration or as a tool to check out instrumentation for certain styles. But also it certainly has its negatives.

I don't mean to walk down the streets ringing a bell screaming "The end is nigh!", but it will bring along great changes that I'm not sure I'm ready for.

What's your thoughts? Also, if you've generated any cool things on suno then feel free to share them here :).

"Make a eurobeat song in the style of initial D"
https://app.suno.ai/song/e40bdf84-b110-4751-906d-966498fd515f/

ai art is almost everywhere sure some companies did use it which caused controversy such as Wacom but it didnt really replaced every artist on the industry, ai music will just be the same tho the only problem that could happen is someone winning in a competition using ai music

At 4/20/24 03:21 PM, FairSquare wrote: For the most part i'm just amazed at how magical it feels.
Write a couple words, press a button.. bam, a song. It's just crazy.

Unlike some people have expressed here, i'm not of the opinion that A.I. will be stopped.
It has already advanced too far and too quickly for it to be stopped.
Laws may be created, but those will be only try to stop people from using A.I. in a malicious way and not to stop the progress it makes.

Scared, worried, sad, hopeful.. we will have to live with this. It will get much better and it will end up taking over (at least a part of) the music industry. I have already heard a complete symphony created by A.I. Just to give an example.. why pay a composer who needs lots of resources to make a score for your movie if you can just have it ready with the press of a button? Fully customized, with probably more control of the end product than when you hire a composer.

At 4/24/24 05:17 PM, Jatmoz wrote: In the future, 99% of all content out there will be AI-generated. Since AI cannot ever come up with new ideas, and everyone eventually gets bored of seeing the same thing all the time, the art created by humans which accounts for that 1% will be highly sought after.

Either that, or the standards of the general public will stay the same as they are today, but I highly doubt they will.

At 4/24/24 08:56 PM, Czyszy wrote:

At 4/24/24 05:17 PM, Jatmoz wrote: In the future, 99% of all content out there will be AI-generated. Since AI cannot ever come up with new ideas, and everyone eventually gets bored of seeing the same thing all the time, the art created by humans which accounts for that 1% will be highly sought after.

Either that, or the standards of the general public will stay the same as they are today, but I highly doubt they will.

I think none of us will be alive when it happens.

At 4/30/24 07:56 PM, JesseLeeIndie wrote: https://suno.com/
Above site is just amazing for A.I. generated music...

The days of paying ridiculous prices for music are thankfully over.
With Suno site we pay $10 a month for 500 songs a month(that is just 50 cents for each song).

I've been making indie video games for over 25+ years...
I don't make games for profit and live in an apartment for the homeless.
No chance of getting a job either, have severe mental and physical disabilities.