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This Week's Site Updates

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Site Work


This week we added an AI flag option, for when you need to flag a project that was predominantly made by AI. Previously people were using the "Spam" or “Inappropriate” flags as a workaround.


If you have a big list of links on your user page and ran into a bug with sorting them, that is fixed.


Unregistered users now see the Follow button, so they know following artists is an option.


If you noticed missing images in the Wiki, some stuff got misplaced during cleanup but that should be fixed. Let me know if you see missing images anywhere. We're still in an overall internal site cleanup mode where weird things can happen.


Revisiting one of last week’s updates, if you ever experienced the bug where you uploaded an image in the author commentary of a project, only to have it be replaced with a line of text showing the path to where the image should be, that bug is now resolved. You will need to go back to those projects and re-upload the image, however. 


There were a bunch of smaller changes this week, for example if a project has been deleted it will no longer say that it “never existed”, only that it doesn’t exist.


With the PHP update largely in the rearview, the current big project is an overhaul to the feed system. We’re making changes that will reduce database storage and improve performance of the feed, so it should feel snappier if everything works as expected.


Web News


In recent weeks, we learned that Reddit, Tumblr and Wordpress have made deals with AI companies, allowing them to train on user data.


There was also an executive order to stop the sale of personal data to countries like Russia and China. It’s still fair game for companies to sell it everywhere else, though!


Also noteworthy, here’s an Open Letter to Tim Cook, concerning Apple’s efforts to sabotage web apps. Word is that Apple has changed course after this letter but I’m sure they will still be looking for ways to make the web less competitive than apps.


I thought this would be a good time to remind everyone that we aren’t selling your personal data to anyone, we aren’t making deals to train AI on your data and we are committed to the open web.


We do have to compete with these companies for your attention, though! If it wasn’t for all the money to be made off personal data, a lot of these platforms might not even exist and NG would have a more level playing field.


Making things more challenging, NG is ad-free on every page except A-rated movies and games, with the goal of being 100% ad-free if enough people become Supporters! If all this sounds good to you, we would really appreciate your support.


Sludge Brothers Kickstarter


PFINNEY is hosting a Kickstarter to create an animated pilot for his original series, Sludge Brothers!


The Kickstarter made decent progress this week, if we can help get it close, it will encourage people to take it all the way in the final days. Here’s some of @PFINNEY’s movies on NG:



Collabs this Week


Here are some collabs that were released this week!



All of the ongoing art for the Dreamcast Collab has been making me wonder how enormous this will be!


Other News


Pixel Day Winners have been announced!


The Music Triathlon is currently in Voting Phase 2!


February 28th - LISA Campfire Collab deadline.

February 28th - Transformers Collab deadline.

February 29th - Pokemon Mystery Meat Collab deadline.


March 1st - Adult Swim Collab deadline.

March 8th - Bug Collab deadline.

March 15th - RIP General Collab deadline.

March 17th - Lucky Collab deadline.

March 20th - Storytime Collab deadline.

March 23rd - Sandwich Collab deadline.


April 3rd - Kamen Rider Collab deadline.

April 15th - Happy Tree Friends Gijinka Collab deadline.

April 20th - Earth Day Collab deadline.

April 21st - Flash Forward deadline.


May 18th - Pico Day


June - Midsummer Rumble month-long art event!

June 2nd - Dreamcast Collab extended deadline.

June 5th - NGTV Summer Bash deadline.

June 27th - Christmas in July Collab deadline.

June 28th - Too Many Games Meetup in Oaks, PA.


July 20th - Five Nights at Freddy's Collab deadline.


Working on Nightmare Cops!

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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 12:40:49


always like a new site update


Not working on Nightmare Cops.

Also last post.

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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 12:44:14


It's great! A wonderful update of the art portal. Well done!



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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 12:47:20


This is awesome, also I like new updates such as Flag for AI stuff and Follow button for unregistered users.


!Sandwich Collab coming soon!


A member of Thumbnail Crew!, you should help as well!


AKA fe3l1ngsk1lled and Skilled!

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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 12:56:18


does the AI flag also apply to games coded with the assistance of ChatGPT or smth?


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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 12:59:55


At 3/2/24 12:56 PM, Czyszy wrote: does the AI flag also apply to games coded with the assistance of ChatGPT or smth?


Assistance is generally ok, this would be more for cases where someone tells ChatGPT "create a Snake game" and uploads the output to NG. This will become more and more common as AI models evolve, similar to how things like Sora will result in more animations purely created via AI prompt.


Working on Nightmare Cops!

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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 13:05:41 (edited 2024-03-02 13:06:34)


Huh weird, I always flagged suspected AI artwork as spam-- given how quickly these things generate artwork and how quick uninformed users throw them up on their page. Nice to see its own reported category now and should prevent Mods being frustrated.


Regarding privacy: this is something that everyone needs to be mindful of and guard against forking over information willy-nilly if its not for something lawfully mandated.

Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 13:08:43


Super respect to you for not selling our personal data. Also I appreciate all of the extra reasons to despise Apple, this is an indeed a good day.


🌽🌽 King of the Corn @ICantSeeHelp 🌽🌽

Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 13:13:52


Thanks for the heads up Tom, as soon as I read your post I deleted my Tumblr account.


It wasn’t getting any attention anyway. Not like on here.


I make comics checkout my Shuttle Switcher comic series ! And Ghost Galaxy as well!

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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 13:24:41


I Like How The Abusive Button Is Added On The Flagging Audio System Tom!


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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 13:27:11


At 3/2/24 01:13 PM, thepixelizer wrote: Thanks for the heads up Tom, as soon as I read your post I deleted my Tumblr account.

It wasn’t getting any attention anyway. Not like on here.


I should note, Tumblr does have an option to opt-out of having AI trained on your stuff.


Working on Nightmare Cops!

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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 13:35:07


At 3/2/24 01:27 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 3/2/24 01:13 PM, thepixelizer wrote: Thanks for the heads up Tom, as soon as I read your post I deleted my Tumblr account.

It wasn’t getting any attention anyway. Not like on here.
I should note, Tumblr does have an option to opt-out of having AI trained on your stuff.


I’m still not too bothered, my only fan on there followed me first on here. I also hate their interface it’s a mess.


I make comics checkout my Shuttle Switcher comic series ! And Ghost Galaxy as well!

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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 13:36:04


Appreciate the new AI flag, I always used the Spam flag for lack of a better option. Thanks @liljim for implementing it!

Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 13:50:08


ARIGATO TOM


Sic semper tyrannis.

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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 13:58:14


Appreciate the AI flag and statement on the whole AI user data thing!

This is why I love NG; it's a space where human talent thrives! :D

Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 14:03:50


How about use of a model you trained exclusively on your own, previously manually made art? Is there a purity test for that or is that too morally objectionable cus feelings and stuff.


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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 14:14:08


Given that you are planning to update to the feed stuff, it would be nice to be able to customize the "Latest From Your Friends & Favorites" section with the ability to see status updates, and potentially also tells you how much there is left to check out linking you to the feed proper, i always feel like i am missing the updates of who my friends/followers are up to, and with this it can also help the artist news section to be filled with new people!

Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 14:20:36


At 3/2/24 12:39 PM, TomFulp wrote: Site Work

This week we added an AI flag option, for when you need to flag a project that was predominantly made by AI. Previously people were using the "Spam" or “Inappropriate” flags as a workaround.

Thanks for the new flag type, Fulp!


Web News

In recent weeks, we learned that Reddit, Tumblr and Wordpress have made deals with AI companies, allowing them to train on user data.

On the bright side, Reddit's user data should make the AI a lot dumber in the short term /j

Seriously though, this AI bubble can't pop fast enough.


Also noteworthy, here’s an Open Letter to Tim Cook, concerning Apple’s efforts to sabotage web apps. Word is that Apple has changed course after this letter but I’m sure they will still be looking for ways to make the web less competitive than apps.

I wouldn't expect anything else from Apple, considering their support of right to repair came only when the shareholders forced their hand.


I thought this would be a good time to remind everyone that we aren’t selling your personal data to anyone, we aren’t making deals to train AI on your data and we are committed to the open web.

You're a man of integrity, Fulp.

Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 14:22:24


Great updates Tom. Thanks for making newgrounds cool!


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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 14:48:26


At 3/2/24 12:39 PM, TomFulp wrote: If you noticed missing images in the Wiki, some stuff got misplaced during cleanup but that should be fixed. Let me know if you see missing images anywhere. We're still in an overall internal site cleanup mode where weird things can happen.


I didn't find any missing images checking the Portal History, but I did notice a submission getting blocked as "unsuitable" despite the fact I set my content settings to allow A-rated content:

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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 15:23:24


Praise Tom! Tom is king!


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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 17:06:12


I would be VERY surprised if anyone had the balls to post Ai stuff on here...


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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 17:12:31


At 3/2/24 12:59 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 3/2/24 12:56 PM, Czyszy wrote: does the AI flag also apply to games coded with the assistance of ChatGPT or smth?
Assistance is generally ok, this would be more for cases where someone tells ChatGPT "create a Snake game" and uploads the output to NG. This will become more and more common as AI models evolve, similar to how things like Sora will result in more animations purely created via AI prompt.


I imagine that it will become increasingly harder to tell what was Ai assisted or even Ai made.


The high-level Ai stuff is pretty easy to distinguish right now but there is a whole wave of "deviantart" quality art that is indistinguishable right now due to its low skill level


The future is scary...


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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 17:12:55


NEW FLAG OPTION LET'S GOOOOO! We can finally get rid of AI slop more easily!


Don't forget to brush your hands and wash your teeth!

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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 17:13:19


At 3/2/24 05:06 PM, HenryEYES wrote: I would be VERY surprised if anyone had the balls to post Ai stuff on here...


Yesterday I did catch a dude posting steampunkish humans and they also tagged it as AI. Dead giveaway and easy whistle points. :))

Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 17:14:58 (edited 2024-03-02 17:15:47)


At 3/2/24 05:12 PM, HenryEYES wrote:
At 3/2/24 12:59 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 3/2/24 12:56 PM, Czyszy wrote: does the AI flag also apply to games coded with the assistance of ChatGPT or smth?
Assistance is generally ok, this would be more for cases where someone tells ChatGPT "create a Snake game" and uploads the output to NG. This will become more and more common as AI models evolve, similar to how things like Sora will result in more animations purely created via AI prompt.
I imagine that it will become increasingly harder to tell what was Ai assisted or even Ai made.

The high-level Ai stuff is pretty easy to distinguish right now but there is a whole wave of "deviantart" quality art that is indistinguishable right now due to its low skill level

The future is scary...


I'm quite frightened of Sora AI. The level of detail makes me scared enough to not trust anything new on TV anymore. Going to be some interesting times ahead.

Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 17:15:37


At 3/2/24 05:13 PM, YendorBear wrote:
At 3/2/24 05:06 PM, HenryEYES wrote: I would be VERY surprised if anyone had the balls to post Ai stuff on here...
Yesterday I did catch a dude posting steampunkish humans and they also tagged it as AI. Dead giveaway and easy whistle points. :))


I just want to know what is going through their heads when they post that kinda stuff... that's like buying a cake and bringing it to a bake-off and saying it's yours...



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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 17:18:47


At 3/2/24 05:14 PM, YendorBear wrote:
At 3/2/24 05:12 PM, HenryEYES wrote:
At 3/2/24 12:59 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 3/2/24 12:56 PM, Czyszy wrote: does the AI flag also apply to games coded with the assistance of ChatGPT or smth?
Assistance is generally ok, this would be more for cases where someone tells ChatGPT "create a Snake game" and uploads the output to NG. This will become more and more common as AI models evolve, similar to how things like Sora will result in more animations purely created via AI prompt.
I imagine that it will become increasingly harder to tell what was Ai assisted or even Ai made.

The high-level Ai stuff is pretty easy to distinguish right now but there is a whole wave of "deviantart" quality art that is indistinguishable right now due to its low skill level

The future is scary...
I'm quite frightened of Sora AI. The level of detail makes me scared enough to not trust anything new on TV anymore. Going to be some interesting times ahead.


yea I really think it will be a new era... Once they figure out some stuff it might kill a lot of low-skill animation and design work.


The future is looking bleak... not to mention the fact that we are handing over the monopoly on what image or video futage is "real"


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Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 17:21:56


At 3/2/24 05:06 PM, HenryEYES wrote: I would be VERY surprised if anyone had the balls to post Ai stuff on here...


It happens every day, but at a very low volume (it's like 1-2 people) and it basically always gets caught.

Response to This Week's Site Updates 2024-03-02 17:33:35


I love the site you updated well done tom fulp!